This week in class we looked at how to tackle Greek religion
as a topic. Certain aspects of Greek society are bound to be unclear and
therefore scholars have to ‘speculate’ you could say, about how society worked.
This is always very well informed and academic, yet things like this can’t be a
surety as these events took place so far back into our history. This is what
makes Greek religion such a thought-provoking topic because even with primary
evidence, it is hard to truly understand how the Greeks acted toward and responded
to their religious practises. Firstly to even begin to understand their religion it is
key to understand how it played a role in society and politics. Parker
discusses various examples of religious matters being discussed by the assembly
and states, “…what we are seeing is the role of specialists in initiating and
influencing action in the religious sphere. But though specialists may advise,
the assembly decides.” (Page 47) By specialists, Parker is discussing religious
figures, such as priests. In addition to this point, he notes that although a seer
will read on omen, it is in fact the General of the military that decides what
action must be taken. Parker is therefore suggesting that although these
‘specialists’ have clearly defined roles within society- their role is very
much separated from the actual decision process. The ancient Greeks didn’t have
a hierarchical church system and so any religious matters were therefore dealt
with in the citizen assembly. The very same body that governed the state. So
even though Parker draws a distinction between religious figures and the power
they have (or don’t have) in the assembly, he also begins to show that
this was because religion wasn’t at all separate from the state, it was one
body that governed both. It was completely intertwined as one.
Other than
these priests, Parker discusses the other groups that had influence on this
assembly. These were as follows:
- · Interest groups
- · Other religious figures (such as seers)
- · And “most importantly” (p.47) politicians
At this
point I would like to reiterate a point made in my first blog posting. The idea
of not looking at this topic with ‘Christianised and modern’ goggles so to
speak. The cultural differences between “us” and “them” are arguably very
extreme. By “us” I mean someone who is brought up in a Christian country (despite the fact that I don’t actually
consider myself a Christian). Our God is known as being good. He is the epitome
of perfection and kindness. This can’t be said for the Greek deities. These
gods have human flaws and attributes with feelings that influence their decisions.
In Hesiod’s Theogony we hear of
Ouranos’ children, “…the wily, youngest and most terrible of his children, and
he hated his lusty father.” (137-8) Here we see that Cronos hated his father.
We also hear that Kottos, Briareos and Gyges were “…exceedingly arrogant
children.” (149). These deities differ so much from our own God and can
scarcely be compared (especially in the eyes of a true Christian surely). Zaidman
discusses in chapter one the importance of this ‘cultural estrangement’. The
Greeks embedded one religion into all aspects of life, whereas we have many types and levels of religion (Anglican, Catholic etc.) and above all we are secularised, our religion
is separate from our state. The Greeks took religion in a much different
manner- there weren’t set ‘rules’ as it exists in Christianity. There was no
hierarchical church system. There was no ‘sin’ as such. To put it simply, there
was no blockade between normal life and religion. It was simply how they lived
their lives. This therefore generates the question; was there religion in the
Greek world? And in my opinion the answer is no. Not in the way we see religion
nowadays. We are undertaking a type of anachronism by placing our religious
ideas into Greek society.
In class
Susan Deacy provided an interesting contrast to the idea of “us” and “them”. It
challenges this concept and offers an argument to counteract this theory. In
the Forbes book there is a chapter called Finding
Religion in Unexpected Places. Forbes talks about how a type of religion is
abundant in our popular culture, which is arguably a good description of how
religion worked in Greek society. It may not be a religion that we have come to
expect due to our ideas of what religion is; yet it is still there. It
discusses how religious figures, subjects and stories are rife throughout our books, songs and television. We are completely immersed in it without being aware. This is an interesting
concept yet the one that caught my attention the most was the idea that parts of
popular culture are actually becoming a
religion of sorts. A strange idea yes.
Think of someone you know that loves
football, an extremely popular sport in England. I certainly know many people
that love the ‘beautiful game’. These people buy football shirts and they learn
the football chants that support their team. They simply worship these teams. They organise their time (and therefore lives)
so that they can watch the big game, often with a gathering of friends. To me
this sounds a lot like a religious practise. In a Christian sense they are
learning hymns, wearing something to show their faith (like a cross) and
attending congregations. Forbes describes the Super-bowl in the USA has having
all the “trappings of religious festival” (p.2) and he isn’t wrong. Of course
sport isn’t literally a religion, yet it shows aspects of one. Our popular culture
is perhaps a good analogy of Greek religion and how it fits into society… not
as religion, but simply as part of life.
Hopefully
these rambling make sense; it is definitely food for thought! Now I have a
deeper understanding of how to tackle Greek ‘religion’ and next week I’m going
to be looking closely at polytheism, the belief in multiple deities.
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